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Sober & Lit Podcast
Real talk for women ditching alcohol to feel lit — alcohol free.
Sober & Lit is the podcast for women who are ready to rethink their drinking, take their power back, and build a life that actually feels better without booze.
Join alcohol freedom coaches Susan Larkin and Ruby Williams for honest conversations, relatable stories, and real-life tools to help you get sober, stay sober, and feel truly lit — alcohol free.
Whether you're sober-curious, cutting back, or already alcohol-free, you’ll find powerful support, tools, coaching strategies, and laughs along the way.
No shame. No labels. No rock bottom required. Just freedom, clarity, and the peace you’ve been craving.
New episodes weekly — tune in and get ready to feel lit alcohol-free.
Sober & Lit Podcast
Are You a Gray Area Drinker? Jolene Park Breaks It Down / EP 73
Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast! In this episode, hosts Coach Susan and Coach Ruby are thrilled to sit down with Jolene Park, a sought-after speaker, functional nutritionist, and creator of the revolutionary NOURISH Method ™ for alcohol-free living. Jolene is perhaps best known for her groundbreaking TED Talk, which introduced the concept of “gray area drinking”—the space between occasional drinking and end-stage alcohol dependency. With more than 350,000 views, her talk has become a cornerstone for those who don’t identify as having hit “rock bottom,” yet know their relationship with alcohol isn’t serving them.
Jolene defines clearly what gray area drinking is and isn't and introduces her NOURISH Method ™, a physiology-first approach to healing that replaces guilt and deprivation with real, replenishing tools. From morning sunlight to magnesium, connection to curiosity—this isn’t about white-knuckling. It’s about resources.
Have you ever asked, "Is my drinking really a problem?" Or wondered why quitting feels so hard—even when you want to? This episode is your permission slip to get curious, not judgmental—and finally understand why alcohol might be numbing what actually needs care.
Episode Links & Resources:
Jolene Park’s TED Talk and Website: https://grayareadrinkers.com
Follow Jolene on Instagram: @jolene_park Substack: https://substack.com/@jolenepark
Find a Gray Area Drinking Coach: https://grayareadrinkers.com/find-a-coach/
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Connect with the Podcast Hosts:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/
Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching
It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.
