Drinking because you’re lonely? Truth about Alcohol & Isolation / EP 63

Welcome back to Feel Lit Alcohol Free! In this episode we’re tackling a topic that’s raw, real, and rarely talked about—loneliness.

Did you ever pour a drink just to fill the silence?  You are not alone. Loneliness is one of the most common reasons we hear that people have fallen into drinking habits that no longer serve them. 

Susan and Ruby dive into why major life shifts like divorce, empty nesting, or losing a loved one often leave us searching for connection in all the wrong places.
But here’s the game-changer: Loneliness doesn’t have to be the end of connection—it can be the beginning of something incredible.

Does being alcohol-free sometimes make you feel like an outsider? What if loneliness isn’t the problem—but the key to something bigger?

We’re sharing practical strategies to turn isolation into empowerment, build real friendships, and create a life that’s not just alcohol-free—but vibrant, fulfilling, and truly connected.

Ready to shift your perspective and step into deeper, more meaningful relationships? Let’s dive in!

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Transcript

Sick and tired of your love-hate relationship with wine?
Welcome to the feel it alcohol free podcast. Hi. I'm coach Ruby Williams. And I'm coach Susan Larkin. We are two former wine lovers turned alcohol freedom coaches exposing the lies about alcohol and giving you, our listeners, the tools to break free so you can feel lit. And when you're lit, you'll feel healthier, freer, and more in control of your life. So relax, kick back, and get ready to feel lit alcohol free. And don't forget, grab a copy of our wine free weekend guide after the show.

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Ruby  [00:00:37]:
Hello, and welcome back to the feel lit Alcohol Free Podcast. Susan and I are so excited to talk about this even though it's a little more serious of a topic. I mean, our podcast name is Feel Lit, and we drink a lot of times to numb emotions that we wanna avoid and or that make us feel uncomfortable. So we don't have a specific question today, but what we hear all the time from clients and people we know, and they say this thing, like, I drink because I'm lonely. And I want you to know that this is so common, and you're not alone. It happened to me. And oftentimes, loneliness can come from an event, right, like an empty nest.

Ruby  [00:01:29]:
You know, when your kids go off to college, you start to feel alone, or you go through a divorce. That happened to me too. Or maybe the death of a spouse. I mean, this comes up a lot in our lives with our clients. We hear this. We just hear this a lot, the loneliness. So we're gonna dive into being lonely, which is also one of the ‘HALT’. Right? Hungry, angry, lonely, tired, and bored.

Ruby  [00:01:53]:
But we just really wanted to address this topic because it's so common, and you're just not alone. So we like to dive into our stories. Mine, I would say, is mostly around being an “empty nester”. I was definitely drinking a lot, but when my son went away to college actually, oh my gosh. I just remembered. I experienced an empty nest before. Okay. So what happened was I had custody of my son since he was one.

Ruby  [00:02:23]:
And when he was gonna go to high school, so ninth grade, he decided he wanted to live with his dad. Oh my gosh. It felt like a punch in the gut. I mean, I remember when he told me, and I said, I'm gonna go take a shower, and I just sobbed in the shower. And I remember it felt like my life was over. Like, but I'm a mom. What is my life? You know? It just was just and, Anne, it felt like he was, it just felt horrible. And I remember I couldn't stop crying so I went to a therapist because literally I would just start busting out crying, like, all the time.

Ruby  [00:03:06]:
I was trying not to be in front of him. In fact, I don't think I did. He didn't know I was, like, crying all the time. And I was able to move through it, but it was such a hard thing because my whole identity, like, he he, you know, making lunches, doing the homework, taking you know, he had sports events. You know, I would go to all of his sporting events, and it was such a big part of my life that I ended up drinking a lot more. And then it was around the same time that I actually had my weight loss surgery, so I got thinner, and I was looking better. I had more, like, confidence on the outside, and it was easy to go to bars. I don't know if you know this about me, Susan, but that year that my son went to his father's in his ninth grade of high school. And I only got to see him every other weekend. It was just a completely different life. All of a sudden I had every night free except for, you know, every other weekend. And I started to think there were two or three different bars within walking distance from my house. And I would go down there and order drinks and then walk home.

Ruby  [00:04:27]:
And I remember thinking this was a way to relieve the loneliness, but it was all fake. Because do you wanna know? When I remember sitting at a bar stool, this is, like, one example, and telling this woman that was just sitting next to me my whole life story and, like, getting weepy. And then thinking, like, the next day, that it was not a connection. I don't even know her name, who she was. Like, it's not her true friend. Right. But I just needed connection. I just needed it, like I felt so lonely and lost.

Ruby  [00:05:01]:
And I think this happens with empty nesting, divorce, loss of a spouse. Then I experienced empty nesting again when my son went to college. So he came back for a sophomore year, and he lived with me again. But then he went to college. And, actually, because I had experienced that when he went to ninth grade, it was so much easier. But it was but at that point, my drinking had increased so much that it just gave me, like, free rein. Like, no one's there to watch. Right? Like, I could drink.

Ruby  [00:05:31]:
I felt like, oh, I'm home alone. Nobody's gonna even notice. I can drink as much, or I just keep drinking. But it made me feel more lonely because I couldn't and I decided not to ever answer the phone, text, go on social media, and nothing once I started drinking because there were too many times where I was like, I don't know what I said on the phone. I don't know what I said on text, or you would read the text the next day, or what the heck was I posting? Or and I couldn't I I had all these rules. You cannot go on Amazon. What did I buy? Like, you just it was yeah. So I was staying home alone, drinking, and not going out.

Ruby  [00:06:12]:
And I remember, like, even making plans with friends and saying, like, okay. Sure. I'll go out with you on Friday. We'll go have dinner or whatever. And then I would start drinking right after work, and I'd have to cancel. So it made my world smaller and smaller because I kept choosing to drink alone more than even connecting with others. And that's where this happens for many of us. Yes.

Ruby  [00:06:36]:
So I haven't shared that story yet. So, yeah. Anyway, what's your story, Susan, around, like, loneliness or yeah.

Susan [00:06:46]:
Well, that's so interesting, though, that if you hadn't shared that, and that seems like a really significant accelerator event for you and your life because you've talked about weight loss surgery before, but this also. And we know this, you know, I hear these stories from women all the time. It's divorce, and now my kids are going every other weekend to their dads, and now I don't know what else to do on the weekends. So, back to the statement you said at the beginning, you are not alone. If you're thinking that you are the only person this is happening to, you are not. This is a huge accelerator event and repercussion from something like divorce or empty nest or loss of a spouse. All of a sudden, your life was even if you were older, like, you know, and your kids had already left, you know, the house and have their own kids and etcetera, but your spouse dies. Then all of a sudden, you're home alone every night, and you're used to cooking for your spouse or having these together times and just how much easier it is to just sit at home and drink than it is to get out there.

Susan [00:07:54]:
You know? Not that you need to get out there and date or anything. I'm not even saying that. I mean, I don't have that experience exactly. If we've, we've always had kids living here. Like, when my kids went off to college one of my stepdaughters moved back in, so I'm not especially lonely. Yeah. Yet. But I do see how drinking isolated me and kept me from some social events because I would rather stay like you said, I'd rather stay home and drink alone than maybe go out where maybe I had to, you know, regulate my drinking more, or I was always just thinking, like, am I drinking too much? Is that bottle gonna be enough for the four of us? If you know, just those thoughts were those drinking thoughts too were also interrupting me from having true connection with people.

Susan [00:08:46]:
And I really see a difference now in my socializing alcohol free that I just don't have that barrier. I'm just so fully, authentically there with people because I'm not distracted by alcohol, basically.

Ruby  [00:09:02]:
Mhmm. So

Susan [00:09:03]:
and it's totally understandable because you're seeking relief. You're seeking comfort if you're upset, like you say, and you're crying all, you know, every day. And yeah. And it doesn't feel good to go through these life transitions when they happen. But the great thing is, what I see in people's lives is when they become alcohol free and they become more their authentic self and then start exploring some of these things. And this is part of the Nourish curriculum that I've learned with Jolene Park. Some of the things that help us in our lifestyle, alcohol free lifestyle, and to address physiology are creativity. And so a lot of times I work with clients and I'm like, well, what did you enjoy doing as a kid? Like, playing. You know? And one of the things I started, as you know, is pickleball.

Susan [00:09:57]:
Right? And recently, our little pickleball friends invited us to go to the local brewery, and there was a band there. And I was just so much more comfortable not drinking. It's so crazy. They had alcohol free beer, and the band was awesome. It was just all this eighties music. And, I just felt it was just so fun, you know? And so a lot of times, though, people think, oh, well, how could you go to a brewery if you're alcohol free and enjoy that? You know? But it was so enjoyable. I just had my alcohol free beer. Or if they didn't have alcohol free beer, I would've just had water or whatever, and I'm just there to enjoy the company and

Ruby  [00:10:34]:
the

Susan [00:10:34]:
new Pickleball friends and the band.

Ruby  [00:10:36]:
You know? Mhmm. So yeah. Yeah. I yeah. It's definitely a journey of self discovery. And then I like to say this too, like, when you let go of some of the things you were doing when you were drinking or or some of even your drinking friends, you make room for some new experiences. Mhmm. I mean, I was definitely escaping the feeling of loneliness and emptiness.

Ruby  [00:11:04]:
You know? Really what empty nest is really what it was like, by drinking. Like, it was a way to escape, numb those feelings. I've shared this before, then I'd have a big pity party, and I'd start crying anyway. It was the weirdest thing. I would be, like, watching sad movies, crying, a big pile of, like, Kleenex from crying so much. And so I was definitely lonely. Like, it wasn't my friend. Alcohol was not my friend, although I thought it was.

Ruby  [00:11:38]:
I thought it was what was comforting me, making me feel less lonely. So, truly, I want you to know you're not alone in this. You're not alone. You're not alone in this. You're really not. It it happens to I would say, so many people that are drinking that you eventually, like, you do less. It isolates you. You choose to end up drinking alone.

Ruby  [00:11:59]:
But the opposite happens. So, yeah, I wanna talk about it, like I recently read the book Let Them by Mel Robbins. I love it. I thought it was great. It reminded me of the serenity prayer. So, you know, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change is, like, let them. And then the courage to change the things that I can is to let me part. And then the wisdom to know the difference is just getting like, embracing your true self.

Ruby  [00:12:31]:
And so as you get alcohol free, you can just start to create opportunities for connection. What Mel says in her book is that to create a really good friendship, like a bestie, a BFF, it takes something like two hundred hours. And here's what's interesting, is when you're younger, say you're in school, high school, or even college, you can get those two hundred hours really quickly. Mhmm. People are people you know, you're all you're going to school. Everybody has the same schedule. You usually have time off after school. You're in a sport or a club, and you're making sure you can spend time with them, you know, on the weekends.

Ruby  [00:13:14]:
It's like you have more free time. As an adult, it just takes more intention. And it's really you wanna, like, actually foster these adult friendships. And what's really cool I mean, there's lots of ways you can start by joining different clubs or things, which Susan's gonna talk about. But I also wanna just say, like, being open to what's available. Like I said, you're opening the door. When you, like, kinda let go of something, you can open the door for something new. And when you talked about, like, fun, you know what came to my mind? My ocean plunge, ladies.

Ruby  [00:13:54]:
Oh. It's so fun. And I started the well, Tammy Salas, who's on the she actually started, but then I took it over and do it every week. And we literally laugh so hard, and we scream, and we laugh. And it's like playing in the ocean, in the sun, in the sand. And it but, see, to make them be my BFFs, we've been doing this now for three years every Sunday. You kinda do the math, and it's like, okay. I think we're finally there.

Ruby  [00:14:19]:
So it's about proximity too. Like, sometimes you think, I'm not hanging out with certain friends as much. It's like you make the time and the proximity, and then you just do the fun things. So what I'd love for you all to do is, like, make a list of who are your friends, what could you do with them, and start reaching out, stepping outside of your comfort zone, inviting people for coffee, joining groups, clubs, and just, letting go of that old yeah. Let go. Let them. Let the old friendships go or create new friendships or reach out to old friends too and reconnect. All of this can be happening.

Ruby  [00:15:06]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I

Susan [00:15:08]:
get it. There's fear there. I know I felt like when I first stopped drinking, I didn't know what I liked.

Ruby  [00:15:16]:
I was like, well, I don't know.

Susan [00:15:17]:
You know? I and sometimes people find out that they're more of an introvert than they thought they were also. Mhmm. So it's like honoring that, and it's honoring that maybe you don't know, and that's okay too. I just wanna put that out there. Like, okay, so it's a big experiment. It's like, well, try this and see. Like, go back to I love to tell people, go back to your childhood. What did you like as a kid? Yes.

Susan [00:15:39]:
You know? And then imagine something in your mind. And then if it brings a little it's the smile test, they call it. And if it brings a little smile to your face, go, okay. Maybe I wanna take a drawing class. I've always loved drawing as a kid. Mhmm. Maybe you wanna take an interior design class if you love putting colors together or quilting. Like, my mom quilts, and she has a whole quilting guild, and they're all so good about putting these colors together.

Susan [00:16:07]:
I'm terrible at it, and I'm terrible at sewing.

Ruby  [00:16:09]:
Quilters get together, and they have little quilting circles. It's very Yeah. Connection. Yeah. I have some clients that quilt. Mhmm.

Susan [00:16:17]:
Yes. And what was the other thing? Oh, mahjong is a new thing. And, apparently, you know, it's so you need so much brainpower for mahjong that you can't do it and be drinking or, you know, old card games or volunteering. Like, if you love cats or you love dogs or you love babies, volunteer to go down and hold all the NICU babies or, you know, just Yeah. I believe if you just take one step forward, we call this the moving walkway. In so many areas of our life, it's like you take one step forward, and then the moving walkway will move you forward. And then it doesn't have to be all or nothing. It doesn't have to be forever.

Susan [00:16:57]:
You can say, I'm gonna volunteer at this animal shelter. And then if I don't end up liking it, you can always stop, you know, and try something else.

Ruby  [00:17:07]:
Yeah. Take one class. Like, oh, so if you're even just sparking interest oh, I always wondered what pottery making's like. Take one pottery class. Yeah. You know? Or, like you said, go back to what you did before you were drinking? It's so funny when I ask clients that question, and they're all of a sudden they're they're light they're they go, oh my god. I used to play the piano every day. And I'm like, oh.

Ruby  [00:17:30]:
And then when did you stop playing piano? Oh, about the time I started drinking heavily. You know? Okay. You know, maybe that's back when you were in your twenties or a long time ago, but you can remember those things that you used to love to do and or something you've always wanted to try. It can be Yeah. Both and. Right? You can have some, like, and I wanna try to surf one day. So I've never done it. But there's things that could be on your bucket list, so to speak, or things that you used to love to do when you were a child.

Ruby  [00:18:02]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Susan [00:18:03]:
And, yeah, stuff that's on your bucket list. I love that. Just to explore, travel. We hear from a lot of different clients or guests that come on the podcast that they started traveling, and there's ways to travel alone. And when you can go in these different groups, there's sober retreats. There's a Yeah. Apparently, there's, like, a sober cruise. There's lots of opportunities to and people go alone, and then they but, again, like I've mentioned on another podcast, the sober community is so wholehearted.

Susan [00:18:34]:
You already have that in common. You already have a way of connecting. And when I've done that myself, the connection is just amazing with new people. Oh, and it's so fun. So even making mocktails, become a mixologist.

Ruby  [00:18:50]:
You know? You can always also, I do recommend to some of my clients that really you know, you can go to, say, a church community. You can also, like Susan mentioned, volunteer. But you can also go to AA. Even if that's not your thing, like, we, Susan and I, are This Naked Mind certified coaches, which is a little different methodology than AA, but AA is local. So if you do, you know, really wanna meet someone for coffee or have a hug, you can go to AA. And then I just say because I don't really love, like, at all the term, like, I am an alcoholic. So I say, hi. I'm Ruby.

Ruby  [00:19:29]:
I am so grateful to be alcohol free. And that's what I say. So if you don't like that word alcoholic, you can have a new little phrase for yourself. I love it. Yeah. And then I also wanted to share that I created a Meetup. So Meetup is an app, and I can just go on Meetup, you guys, and find there's, like, Meetup groups. They play bingo or they go hiking or there's dog walking.

Ruby  [00:19:53]:
There's knitting ones. I've seen all kinds. So I just decided to create one that's called an alcohol free fun group. Oh. And we do things like that, like hiking, and we've met for coffee. And it's just really cool. I'm having a lot of fun with it. So you can start your own group or join others.

Ruby  [00:20:10]:
Yeah.

Susan [00:20:10]:
Yeah. I love that. Oh, I wish I could do that. I wanna join your group, but I'm all the way across the country.

Ruby  [00:20:16]:
Boo. Well, Izzy Izzy, we've had Izzy on. Yeah. And she in San Francisco started the walks, the San Francisco Walks. So you could totally start a group or just join them. If you're in the San Francisco area, join Izzy. Join Izzy. Or if you're in Sonoma County, it's called Sonoma County Alcohol Free Fun Group on Meetup.

Ruby  [00:20:35]:
So, yeah, I'd love to see you there.

Susan [00:20:37]:
Well, I guess I have to start one in Connecticut then. Yes, please. I guess we're coming out of winter. It's starting to thaw here. So then if I wanted to do some sort of walks, we could do some sort of coffee shop crawl or something or mocktail crawl. Yeah. That's good. That's good.

Susan [00:20:55]:
Yeah.

Ruby  [00:20:55]:
You're I could see you're, like, your My wheels are turning. Your wheels are turning. You're like, okay. So how about that? All of you listening, you know, how can you create more community, more connection? Because connection is the opposite of addiction. Mhmm. And we really do, we are tribes, and we really do. Why is this important? Why are we even bringing this up? Because we need other people. Humans need humans and connection and friendship. Adult friendship is so important.

Ruby  [00:21:26]:
And like I was saying, it's harder. It's so easy when you're in school, when you're young. Mhmm. And there for all those reasons I mentioned, it's just the proximity, the same schedule. So it's different now. As an adult, it's a little more intention. Like like, make it a priority. If that's what you want is more friendship, like, reach out.

Ruby  [00:21:45]:
Where whatever you wanna do in terms of clubs or games or

Susan [00:21:49]:
yeah. Acquire a networking group, if you're in business. Like, I'm in this woman's networking group, and they meet for lunch once a month, and then they have activities that you can go to. And I think people, in their mind, think, oh, in order to socialize, in order to have these connections, it has to include alcohol. And that's our culture, and, you know, it really pains me when I see, you know, Pilates and Pinot, you know. Oh, I know. But you don't need that. And, in fact, that is a barrier to true connection, alcohol, even one glass, really.

Susan [00:22:26]:
The shades come down. We talked about that, like, and you just see the real person. Yeah. And so putting it out there as an alcohol free activity, you know, and finding those things is possible, and it's actually more beneficial for you than the thought that, oh, it has to have alcohol in order to be fun or to be social. Right. That's just a myth. That's one of those myths that we bought into that's debunked. And, yeah.

Susan [00:22:54]:
But you know what? My heart is still there because I get it. And you get it, especially Ruby. When you feel lonely, it's sometimes hard to drag yourself out of that pit a little bit. But the first step is getting alcohol free, honestly.

Ruby  [00:23:06]:
Yeah. Then you start to gain more confidence in yourself Mhmm. And you're more open. And if we even just talk about vibing, when you're alcohol free, you're just usually a more open person. You're smiling more, so you're more approachable, and it just happens naturally. So maybe you can't imagine it right now, but, again, the first domino, the first big domino is the getting alcohol out, and then you can start to look at joining all these. Life gets so fun. Right, Susan? Yeah.

Ruby  [00:23:38]:
So incredibly fun.

Susan [00:23:39]:
The thing the other night was so fun at this brewery. So fun. The music was great. The people

Ruby  [00:23:44]:
were great. Nothing to do with alcohol.

Susan [00:23:46]:
Nothing well, everybody else, but not me.

Ruby  [00:23:48]:
Yeah. I mean, it's still so much fun without alcohol. Okay. Yeah. Totally. This is my favorite part. One of my favorite parts of our podcast is so, Susan, what are you doing lately to feel lit alcohol free?

Susan [00:24:02]:
Well, one thing that I do all the time and I offer to all my clients is and you gave it to me for Christmas, which is so lovely, is drinking tulsi tea. And tulsi tea is also called holy basil tea. And holy basil is an herb, and it's an adaptogen. And it actually can help with stress, and it has been studied. There's an actual study paper. It's called Tulsi, a herb for all seasons. It was and it's been published that it actually has regular ingestion of Tulsi tea. They call it liquid yoga or yoga in a teacup.

Susan [00:24:45]:
What? A regular consumption of tulsi tea may be compared with the regular practice of yoga, which can be considered adaptogenic through the nurturing and nourishing of the body, mind, and spirit Wow. While fostering a sense of relaxation and well-being. And I can attest to that. Like, I get that sense of well-being from my little yoga snacks, which I've shared, but I also get a great sense of well-being by having a cup of Tulsi tea almost every night. It sort of replaced my old wine habit, and so I work with clients, just offering that as a suggestion. Try some Tulsi tea. You know, when you would normally sit down on the couch, your old ritual of sitting on the couch and having wine is maybe change to a chair and have your favorite book and have a warm, snuggly blanket and have your tulsi tea. You know, there are a lot of rituals around tea as well, like high tea or having tea at 4PM.

Susan [00:25:40]:
So maybe tea and a protein snack at 4PM

Ruby  [00:25:46]:
Mhmm.

Susan [00:25:46]:
Which will set yourself up for getting through the witching hour better. Right? The protein plus the adaptogens, the stress relief, and the feeling of well-being that you get from the Tulsi tea. Wow. Yeah. So it's a pretty cool, pretty cool tea to have in your arsenal. You gave me some really fancy tea that I put in my little tea ball, you know, little you know, it's loose leaf tea, which is really cool. But it actually has protective agents that protect against toxic effects of chemicals, free radicals. It is just a great herb, like, to have in your arsenal.

Ruby  [00:26:22]:
So Alright. Well, I bought you the bag that I gave you for Christmas, and I bought one for myself. And so we had talked yesterday about this episode and what we're going to do to feel it, and you said tulsi tea. And I said, okay. I'm actually gonna open the bag, so I did. And I am not kidding you. I had a wonderful afternoon. I did it instead of doing it normally, I'd have an afternoon coffee, and I said, okay.

Ruby  [00:26:46]:
I'm not gonna have my afternoon coffee. I'm gonna do this tulsi tea and see what happens. And I just felt so good in my stomach. I felt so good in my brain. So I think this is my new habit of not having afternoon coffee and having tulsi tea because I just made everything. I don't know how to explain it, but all those things you just said really really were there. It was Yeah. Calming, and my stomach was calm.

Ruby  [00:27:14]:
I don't know. It was good. I love it.

Susan [00:27:15]:
It is. It's beautiful. Beautiful. And, like, you know, it's not widely recognized in Western medicine, but it's I mean, here it has been published. It has been published and proven that it helps with resilience around stress and with a general feeling of well-being.

Ruby  [00:27:33]:
Yeah. So, I mean And I felt that.

Susan [00:27:36]:
Oh, good. Yeah. Me too. Me too. So why not? Right? So let's see. What is it? Oh, here. I'm gonna read this from this paper. It says, considered a potent adaptogen, tulsi has a unique combination of pharmacological actions that promote well-being and resilience.

Susan [00:27:53]:
So why not? While the concept of an adaptogen or herb that helps with the adaptation to stress and the promotion of homeostasis. Oh. That

Ruby  [00:28:03]:
is how I felt yesterday afternoon. So I love it. Thank you for inter because you're the one that introduced me to

Susan [00:28:10]:
it, and then that's why

Ruby  [00:28:10]:
I bought it for you for Christmas. So now I'm going to drink it. Yeah. So we learn from each other, with these “feel lit” shares. I think it's so cool.

Susan [00:28:18]:
Yeah. There's so much and then I always give this article to clients because I think there's a value to proving to a proof, you know, to article, to, like, expert proof that this does work. Right? And then, and then embracing it.

Ruby  [00:28:36]:
And it

Susan [00:28:36]:
makes it.

Ruby  [00:28:38]:
Yeah. Oh my gosh. So I know the topic of loneliness is a big one, and I'm so glad we were able to address it because it's very important, and it's very common. And I hope you found some help. Please reach out to us. We would love to hear from you, and thank you so much for listening to our Yeah.

Susan [00:28:58]:
Thank you.

Ruby  [00:28:59]:
We love our listeners. We do. Okay. Bye bye. 

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